Balthazar's Spirit w/ Shielding Hands - Guild Wars Forums

monkeyink · Jun 27, 2005, 08:08 PM // 20:08

Ok, I'm going to do some testing with this later but I thought I'd post my question here in the meantime (since I can't test at work).

I'm interested in building a Protection Monk that utilizes Balthazar's Spirit and Shielding Hands. If I have Spirit on me and get swarmed by enemies will the energy regeneration be the same with or without Shielding Hands?

Some things I've considered in my ponderings:

Does Balthazar's Spirit give you a % of energy based on how much damage was dealt or does it give you X energy everytime you take damage?

If Shielding Hands blocks ALL damage from an attack (-0) will Balthazar's Spirit still generate some energy or is -0 ignored by Balthazar's Spirit?

Thanks in Advance!

Fye Duron · Jun 27, 2005, 09:37 PM // 21:37

Good questions... I need to know this as well...

Silmor · Jun 27, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41

Balthazar's Spirit will give you 1 energy for every hit you take. If that hit is -0, you will still gain energy. Raising Smiting Prayers will increase the amount of adrenaline Balthazar's Spirit will grant for each hit on top of the 1 energy, but ofcourse only a primary or secondary warrior can feel this benefit: if you're only interested in the energy, you could very well take it with 0 Smiting Prayers and still gain full benefits from it.

monkeyink · Jun 29, 2005, 02:22 PM // 14:22

I'd say that's pretty incredible. No so much that you can still get the full benefits of Balthazars Spirit at 0 Smiting but the fact that a -0 hit still yeilds full energy benefits. Seems like an oversight to me but hey, I'll take it =]

Along those same lines, will you also gain energy when combining Balthazar's Spirit with spells that prevent all damage for a certain duration? I think there is one called Pacifism for a monk and one called Mist Form for an Elementalist. There are problaby other as well.

Thanks!

Tetris L · Jun 29, 2005, 02:38 PM // 14:38

Pacifism does more than preventing damage. It stops the enemy from attacking in the first place. And no attack means no energy gained.

monkeyink · Jun 29, 2005, 02:58 PM // 14:58

Ah, thank you for the clarification.

Enigmatics · Jun 29, 2005, 11:04 PM // 23:04

And of course balthazaars spirit isn't as effective when being attacked by a single enemy, or just maintaining it without being attacked at all, because you'll have a slower mana regain.

Asrial · Jun 30, 2005, 07:04 AM // 07:04

I suspect that Shielding Hands is the very final end of the process of damage reduction.

I can have Retribution and Shielding Hands up and even though I take 0 damage from Shielding Hands, the enemy still takes damage from Retribution.

Lasareth · Jun 30, 2005, 07:17 AM // 07:17

I have tested Life bond and protective spirit, and all I have to say is that spell effect stacks are whack. Life bond would hit me for 200~ish on an aatxe, then p.spirit would kick in for my target ally.

Shandoo Bilari · Jun 30, 2005, 11:30 AM // 11:30

You used Life Bond on someone being rolled by an Aatxe /shiver... Use Life Barrier haha.

Jun 27, 2005, 08:08 PM // 20:08	#1
monkeyink Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Stand In Arms [SIA] Profession: E/Mo	Balthazar's Spirit w/ Shielding Hands Ok, I'm going to do some testing with this later but I thought I'd post my question here in the meantime (since I can't test at work). I'm interested in building a Protection Monk that utilizes Balthazar's Spirit and Shielding Hands. If I have Spirit on me and get swarmed by enemies will the energy regeneration be the same with or without Shielding Hands? Some things I've considered in my ponderings: Does Balthazar's Spirit give you a % of energy based on how much damage was dealt or does it give you X energy everytime you take damage? If Shielding Hands blocks ALL damage from an attack (-0) will Balthazar's Spirit still generate some energy or is -0 ignored by Balthazar's Spirit? Thanks in Advance!

Jun 29, 2005, 02:22 PM // 14:22	#4
monkeyink Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Stand In Arms [SIA] Profession: E/Mo	I'd say that's pretty incredible. No so much that you can still get the full benefits of Balthazars Spirit at 0 Smiting but the fact that a -0 hit still yeilds full energy benefits. Seems like an oversight to me but hey, I'll take it =] Along those same lines, will you also gain energy when combining Balthazar's Spirit with spells that prevent all damage for a certain duration? I think there is one called Pacifism for a monk and one called Mist Form for an Elementalist. There are problaby other as well. Thanks! Last edited by monkeyink; Jun 29, 2005 at 02:25 PM // 14:25..

Jun 27, 2005, 09:37 PM // 21:37	#2
Fye Duron Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2005 Location: Chico, CA, USA Guild: Dragon Fang	Good questions... I need to know this as well...

Jun 27, 2005, 09:41 PM // 21:41	#3
Silmor Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2005	Balthazar's Spirit will give you 1 energy for every hit you take. If that hit is -0, you will still gain energy. Raising Smiting Prayers will increase the amount of adrenaline Balthazar's Spirit will grant for each hit on top of the 1 energy, but ofcourse only a primary or secondary warrior can feel this benefit: if you're only interested in the energy, you could very well take it with 0 Smiting Prayers and still gain full benefits from it.

Jun 29, 2005, 02:38 PM // 14:38	#5
Tetris L Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Location: Germany Guild: Servants of Fortuna	Pacifism does more than preventing damage. It stops the enemy from attacking in the first place. And no attack means no energy gained.

Jun 29, 2005, 02:58 PM // 14:58	#6
monkeyink Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Stand In Arms [SIA] Profession: E/Mo	Ah, thank you for the clarification.

Jun 29, 2005, 11:04 PM // 23:04	#7
Enigmatics Jungle Guide Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tenafly, NJ Guild: Defenders of Rillanon Profession: W/Mo	And of course balthazaars spirit isn't as effective when being attacked by a single enemy, or just maintaining it without being attacked at all, because you'll have a slower mana regain.

Jun 30, 2005, 07:04 AM // 07:04	#8
Asrial Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2005 Guild: Centurion Guard Profession: Mo/E	I suspect that Shielding Hands is the very final end of the process of damage reduction. I can have Retribution and Shielding Hands up and even though I take 0 damage from Shielding Hands, the enemy still takes damage from Retribution.

Jun 30, 2005, 07:17 AM // 07:17	#9
Lasareth Aquarius Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place	I have tested Life bond and protective spirit, and all I have to say is that spell effect stacks are whack. Life bond would hit me for 200~ish on an aatxe, then p.spirit would kick in for my target ally.

Jun 30, 2005, 11:30 AM // 11:30	#10
Shandoo Bilari Academy Page Join Date: May 2005 Location: NoVa Guild: Dark Brotherhood Profession: Mo/	You used Life Bond on someone being rolled by an Aatxe /shiver... Use Life Barrier haha.